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Do the serial numbers on Mont Blanc pens, fountain or otherwise, relate to the model & specification of the instrument? Had a couple of Rolex watches and the numbers on these watches relate to year of manufacture,model and spec and just wondered if M.B did the same. Oh and if so where do you get the reference sheet from. As I understand it the 149 model relates to: 1=meisterstuck 4= piston filling system 9= nib size Just learning but this forum is a mine of information. Do like being among likeminded lunatics!!! There is a distinction between the Montblanc serial number and the model number.
The serial number is allocated randomly on Meisterstuck/Boheme/Starwalker/Limited pieces following from a date in the early 90s. It is apparently possible to find the production date by contacting Montblanc, although there are easier methods by looking at features of the pen such as the ink window and feed. The numbering system dates back may years, and originally indicated finish, range and size. Product evolution has now made this system largely redundant and except for the '149' rarely are the numbers mentioned due to cultural connotations.
Considering that the serial number is engraved only on the clip, which is easily removed and swapped to other pens, and the cap is just as easily removed and swapped, the serial number seems to be more about consumer confidence than unique identification of a pen (of which the important part is really the nib on FP's). MB may have a database, but it will only identify when a particular clip was manufactured. Most people here identify the model based on nib style, trim style, trim details (for example, is the word 'Pix' cast into the back of the clip), ink window style on fountain pens, refill type, pen shape, etc. They started with the serial numbers in 1991 or 1992, so there are many thousands of MB's out there that don't have them. Here is the text of a post I made in another topic regarding MB serial numbers. The beginning can be confusing because I was asking if there were a specific number of digits in a serial number.
This led me to ask MB more questions regarding the serial # issue. 'I have more information on MB's I'll share just in case anyone is interested. I talked to a nationaly known pen shop as well as Montblanc again this morning regarding my serial numbers and other issues regarding my recent trade for a couple of older Le Grand's. Both were on the same page. Serial #'s don't have a specified number of digits.
Older models will most likly have fewer digits than current production. Some of the #'s started with GE or GER on the first pens to be produced with serial #'s in 1991. There is no database at Montblanc of serial #'s except for limited editions. Serial #'s are now being reissued or reused, so the same # might be found on 2 different pens made years apart.
The logo 'PIX' was introduced on the underside of the clip in 1997. And lastly, Montblanc does not confiscate counterfeit pens. They said that is not company policy. At the Boutique they will hand them back over and if you send it to the factory service center, they will send back your pens and a letter stating either way if your pen is genuine or fake. The person I talked to in Bethlehem, PA was super.
If she didn't know the answer, she went and got it. The 'PIX' logo was in question here with mine.
And hey, she even got out her own pen and counted digits! (7 in case anyone's interested ) So after all this, I'm pretty much convinced my pens are genuine after a brief scare.
I intend to send them off to get the letter and put to rest the doubt. Thanks to all who helped. I did get a MB education.'
I received a Montblanc rollberball pen as a birthday gift from a client a while ago. I was not really interested in pens. The box and papers disappeared after a move, so now I have no idea which model it is and I don't recall how much it cost (or what it is worth today). I never really liked the pen much because it didn't post firmly and the cap would fly off the pen.
I found too small to comfortably write with unposted, so it has been a box queen most of its life. I would like to sell it at some point, but I have no idea how to price it. I brought the pen to the MB boutique on Long Island a month ago. It was an underwhelming experience to say the least. The sales people seemed to know more about (and were more interested in) selling watches, leather goods and jewelry than pens. I wanted to try out a starwalker with a fine nib.
They didn't have any starwalker testers, so the salesperson gave me a 146 fine and told me it wrote the same (just as all MB's do-so he claimed). I am hardly an expert, but it doesn't take a fountain pen guru to see the nibs are completely different. Sorry for digressing, but these geniuses could not tell me what the reference number and apparently didn't have the ability to look it up by its serial number. Hell, what's the hell is the purpose of having the reference no. On the clip then if they can't use it to authenticate the pen and tell me what model it is???
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Based on the serial number, it looks like it was made in 2006 (but I don't have a loupe handy) so I might be reading it wrong. I tried to get it in the pictures, but I wasn't having much luck with my Nexus 5 camera.
When I have a loupe later today, I'll see if if I can give you the rest of the serial number. Here are the pictures: Hopefully one of you MB maestros can help me figure out what I have sitting in my box. It's actually a pretty good fake. I have the exact same model (although authentic) and it's fairly accurate. The most obvious sign it's a replica (at least for me) is the fact that it's too shiny. Unless you never use the pen and still polish it every day, an authentic sterling silver pen is going to dull over time.
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I have five sterling silver Montblanc pens and no matter how hard I try none of them are going to look that presentable.I would love to see a picture of the genuine article. For silver findings and any non-plated metal with polished finish, I like to use cape cod cloth for a quick swipe followed followed by a good rub down with a micro-fiber cloth.
I takes the tarnish off in seconds without damaginw surrounding material. Work the process a little longer and you can take out scratches too. I use it all the time on my watches.:-). I just got a loupe and it's serial number XY2006108. I just looked googled the serial number and, guess what??? It's a fake!!!!
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That sucks!!! I was hoping to sell it and get a MB 146.
Now, I have a pen that's worth $10, which I guess is the value of the real MB cartridge that I put in it a year ago. Needed now and, yes, now I feel like a true idiot myself. I guess I am now qualified to work for my local MB boutique. No reason, though, for you to feel like an idiot.
How were you to know? The people at the boutique, well, maybe. I just got a loupe and it's serial number XY2006108. I just looked googled the serial number and, guess what??? It's a fake!!!! That sucks!!!
I was hoping to sell it and get a MB 146. Now, I have a pen that's worth $10, which I guess is the value of the real MB cartridge that I put in it a year ago. Needed now and, yes, now I feel like a true idiot myself. I guess I am now qualified to work for my local MB boutique. No reason, though, for you to feel like an idiot. How were you to know?
The people at the boutique, well, maybe.Course I seem to notice a trend that people receiving pens as a 'gift' especially from a Client, that the pens end up being fake usually. Just like the Starwalker the other day that someone said they received from a neighbor for work they had done.
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The Montblanc Meisterstuck fountain pen has been a staple accessory of the style conscious and professional alike, making it an icon as an accessory; not only are they reputable writing instruments, but their craftsmenship and reputation as a brand image is well known. Identify the authenticity of a Montblanc pen by recognising the most essential features and trademark design.
Compare the logo on the outside of the pen with the Montblanc logo from the website (see Resources). Look closely at the logo for font and design, to match it to the Montblanc brand. Check to be sure the logo appears in the same places on the pen and the Montblanc image from the website; the tip of the pen nib, as well as the top of the cap and the Montblanc name encircling the base of the pen cap are good starting places for immediate identification. Check the pen clip for a serial number, as a Montblanc Meisterstuck pen comes with its own identifying number for reference. First ensure that this number is present, next compare this serial number with the records of pen purchases by contacting a Montblanc retailer. Ask the Montblanc company to match up the serial number of the pen with the records held by the Montblanc company. Note varieties of colour and metals.
Look online at the different options available; some common combinations include black resin with gold or platinum, as well as solid precious metal pens in either gold, white metals or including diamonds. Visit a local Montblanc store or jeweller in person to authenticate the pen. The variety of colours and special edition styles that have been made is not immediately available online; only a professional can tell for sure if a pen was forged, if it was specially commissioned, or was a limited edition rather than a forgery.